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Quoting hasslehoff,

If you are playing in a premade with friends, say so in the title of the game. It's unfair to PUGs to join a game against 3-4 players on voice comm cooperating against total strangers. It's an unfair advantage and really goes against the competitive spirit of the game.

How about Stardock just get team automatch working? In the mean time, games take forever to fill when you name them "premade" OR they fill with noobs anyways who don't read the title.

Get some friends.

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Quoting Shadow,

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Get some friends.

Quoting ,

quoting post

I have friends I play with too

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In the mean time, games take forever to fill when you name them "premade" OR they fill with noobs anyways who don't read the title.

^ all that really needs to be said. Unless you consistently host, you don't know REALLY how much of a PITA it is to even get a game going these days.

Btw, theres nothing about a premade that goes "against the competitive spirit of this game". Get over it, or yell at stardock to fix its crappy matchmaking.

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Get some friends.

I have friends I play with too

Apparently not if you look at his games.

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How about Stardock just get team automatch working?

How about both?

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Quoting InfiniteVengeance,

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How about Stardock just get team automatch working?

How about both?

See above. My time > random people whining about not having friends.

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Quoting WickedBear,

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Apparently not if you look at his games.

Yes, because the broken stats are such an accurate way to show anything.

Quoting WickedBear,

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See above. My time > random people whining about not having friends.

So now their time is wasted getting dominated for 20-40 minutes because you didn't want others to know you had an advantage. I don't see why time being wasted only goes one way.

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Quoting WickedBear,

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See above. My time > random people whining about not having friends.

LMAO

Exactly how I feel, sometimes getting another premade group to join your "premade" game can take forever.

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Quoting JagerJack,

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Quoting WickedBear, reply 4Apparently not if you look at his games.
Yes, because the broken stats are such an accurate way to show anything.

Quoting WickedBear, reply 6See above. My time > random people whining about not having friends.
So now their time is wasted getting dominated for 20-40 minutes because you didn't want others to know you had an advantage. I don't see why time being wasted only goes one way.

But my time is wasted when people don't label their game "not a pre-made", and I spend 20-40 mins beating them with randoms because they had a bad random player.

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I'd say smashing noobs in an easy and unchallenging manner is a waste of my time, but to each his own.

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Yes, because the broken stats are such an accurate way to show anything.

I mean, theres not many ways I can argue with stupidity like this. It SHOWS who he played with, how is that NOT an accurate way to show if he plays with friends on this game? He certainly doesn't play with them very often if he does at all.

So now their time is wasted getting dominated for 20-40 minutes because you didn't want others to know you had an advantage. I don't see why time being wasted only goes one way.

Simple, their time isn't wasted. They may have learned somthing cool from playing against us, or improved as players. It's not that uncommon. Maybe you're just being narrowminded and naive? Oh, and that's cute btw. Trying to sell me on how I should be concerned with other people's time on the internets Goodluck on that sell.

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Quoting InfiniteVengeance,

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I'd say smashing noobs in an easy and unchallenging manner is a waste of my time, but to each his own.

Because you think premades lineup for premade games? People just want to play the damn game half the time. We don't have all day to sit around waiting. As somone who declares himself as playing with random people all the time, you're not a valid source of information on this subject. We have premades join our games with the same intentions of that of people hosting. Stop demonizing people with friends.

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Quoting ItchyDustbin,

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But my time is wasted when people don't label their game "not a pre-made", and I spend 20-40 mins beating them with randoms because they had a bad random player.

In a PUG vs PUG, the chances of one of the teams being dominated because they had a game-breakingly bad player is lower than the PUG team being dominated in a Premade vs PUG.

Also, in a PUG vs PUG both teams have an equal chance of a bad player on their team.

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Quoting JagerJack,

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Quoting ItchyDustbin,
reply 9
But my time is wasted when people don't label their game "not a pre-made", and I spend 20-40 mins beating them with randoms because they had a bad random player.

In a PUG vs PUG, the chances of one of the teams being dominated because they had a game-breakingly bad player is lower than the PUG team being dominated in a Premade vs PUG.

Also, in a PUG vs PUG both teams have an equal chance of a bad player on their team.

Fail logic is fail. Nothing about being friends makes them not "bad players". Here we go again

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Quoting WickedBear,

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I mean, theres not many ways I can argue with stupidity like this. It SHOWS who he played with, how is that NOT an accurate way to show if he plays with friends on this game? He certainly doesn't play with them very often if he does at all.

STAT TRACKING IS BROKEN.

Simple, their time isn't wasted. They may have learned somthing cool from playing against us, or improved as players. It's not that uncommon. Maybe you're just being narrowminded and naive?[/quote]

You learn by losing in a fair match. You don't lose by being dominated. Maybe you're just trying to justify easy wins?

Oh, and that's cute btw. Trying to sell me on how I should be concerned with other people's time on the internets Goodluck on that sell.

Exactly. Their time > your time. So don't bitch when people complain about premades or leave your games when they find out you're one.

[quote who="WickedBear" reply="14" id="2290995"]Fail logic is fail. Nothing about being friends makes them not "bad players". Here we go again

Reading comprehension over the internet fails again. The OP is talking about premades who do not tell others they are premades, whether it be by not adding it in the title or flat out lying about it. Those people are probably doing it for the stats or the easy wins, and as a result they will probably be sure that they are all adequate players.

No one is talking about premades who just say they are premades if asked or put it in the game title, because they are the ones who are just looking for a good time.

EDIT: Quote tags broke

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Stat tracking is not broken. It just fails occasionally.

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Quoting Shadow,

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Stat tracking is not broken. It just fails occasionally.

Stats don't track when the host disconnects. They also don't track when you crash, drop randomly, etc.

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STAT TRACKING IS BROKEN.

Yes, stats are. Not who you played with.. wow.. need some pills there buddy? LOL

You learn by losing in a fair match. You don't lose by being dominated. Maybe you're just trying to justify easy wins?

Says who? You can learn ALOT by being dominated. What evidence do you have to the contrary besides your opinion? I have vivid examples of those who do EXCEL under pressure like that.

Exactly. Their time > your time. So don't bitch when people complain about premades or leave you games when they find out you're one.

People who whine about it aren't worth my time playing anyway, why would I care?

Reading comprehension over the internet fails again. The OP is talking about premades who do not tell others they are premades, whether it be by not adding it in the title or flat out lying about it. Those people are probably doing it for the stats or the easy wins, and as a result they will probably be sure that they are all adequete players.

No one is talking about premades who just say they are premades if asked or put it in the game title, because they are the ones are are just looking for a good time.

Maybe you should read the FIRST SENTENCE of the OP's statement.

If you are playing in a premade with friends, say so in the title of the game.

I'm not putting a stupid tag that will delay my game making in my title for people like you. I'll answer the question if asked, and always have. Don't forget caps lock in you reply. Make sure you re-read it this time though

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pacov

Join Date 02/2008

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Get some friends that are good at the game (*wonder's why people don't make that qualification)... I'm typically better off not in a premade myself even with voice chat with my buds.

2v2 PreMade - US - Low Ping Only - Host Won't Quit... anything else to add to the title? meh

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Quoting JagerJack,

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Quoting Shadow, reply 16Stat tracking is not broken. It just fails occasionally.
Stats don't track when the host disconnects. They also don't track when you crash, drop randomly, etc.

Well yeah, that part is gay. But assuming honest players the stat tracking is fairly robust.

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Quoting WickedBear,

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Yes, stats are. Not who you played with.. wow.. need some pills there buddy? LOL

Exploits, crashes not being counted.

What evidence do you have to the contrary besides your opinion? I have vivid examples of those who do EXCEL under pressure like that.[/quote]

Such as? There is a difference between pressure and just being outmatched and dominated. Pressure implies that the game was somewhat close to begin with.

Maybe you should read the FIRST SENTENCE of the OP's statement.

[quote quoting="post"]I let everyone know it's a premade

Implying that he says so as well. The overall point of the OP is premades who hide it.

I'm not putting a stupid tag that will delay my game making in my title for people like you. I'll answer the question if asked, and always have.

That's all I ask for really. It is your fault if you don't ask.

EDIT: Again with the quote tags....

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Except the fundamental point of this thread is counter productive if thats the case. Those who don't care who they play against are going to do whatever they can to get the game going. Those who are in it to steam roll, thrive on other people's reactions to what they do, making it more "fun" for them. This thread is just throwing fuel on that desire of theirs.

I seriously doubt anyone who reads this post is going to go oh...... maybe I should be nice now.

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But assuming honest players the stat tracking is fairly robust.

We're talking about people who hide the fact that they're a premade. Honest players?

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Just because a team is a Premade does not mean they are any good. I've played quite a few premades who's skills were no better then your average PUG... He'll I have played PUGS who put up more of a fight then some "premades"

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Quoting JagerJack,

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Also, in a PUG vs PUG both teams have an equal chance of a bad player on their team.

So do premades, premades aren't all made up of 5 amazing players surprisingly.

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